Comments on: Lowenstein: Can Ellen change hearts and minds?

By: Mr. Coffee

Mr. Coffee — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:05:47 +0000

Harvey Milk taught us this in the days of the Briggs initiative in California. But when Prop 8 came ’round, establishment Gay organizers promptly shut all the Gay Couples in a closet and proceeded to lose what should have been a shoo-in compared to Briggs. Not even one television Ad featured a Gay couple.
Shame on them, shame on Barney Frank, and shame on all the “acceptable and accepted” Gay politicos who forgot the simple lessons we learned long ago.
Don’t forget, organizers – you are accepted by “them” because they think you can control “us”. Once we abandon you and return to our roots, you will have no more value to them and you’ll taste the real world.

By: Earl

Earl — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:11:02 +0000

When we two husbands, American men who fell in love at first sight in 1976 and married in Canada in 2003, have full civil equality in our homeland, then we’ll sit back and speculate on the reasons how that happened. Meanwhile, every step towards educating heterosexuals about their heterosexual-supremacist rules is a step closer the dawning of that day.

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By: Courtney

Courtney — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:50:40 +0000

She has money and lot of us don’t.
With money….a lot of things can happen.
She probably has great health insurance that would have covered Portia anyway even if CA didn’t have civil unions.
Let’s just say Ellen doesn’t represent the whole community and marriage is a lot more financially important to us than it is to Ellen.

By: GrrrlRomeo

GrrrlRomeo — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I think what gays on TV do is change the future more than the now. People against gay rights may accept Ellen, but just Ellen despite that she’s gay.

It’s the next generation of voters that will have grown up seeing gay people on TV that changes the game.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:45:15 +0000

So Ellen is a “character”. Will Truman was a character too. Did a lot of good for public acceptance. At least people who like them and think of them as representative of all gays will maybe have more positive attitudes toward a “real” gay person when they finally meet one. What happens when they do finally meet a “real” one is up to you and me.

By: CArolyne

CArolyne — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:34:04 +0000

2 WOMEN i CANNOT STAND ON TV . ELLEN AND TYRA.

By: drewski

drewski — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:40:37 +0000

Once upon a time, a comedian named Rosie was very popular and on the way up. At the same time, another comedian named Ellen was also popular, but she was not only on her way down, but the more her media character voiced her thoughts, the more she was derided and ridiculed. Ellen spent her time in the wilderness (like Moses). Rosie got her own TV show, left that and went to another one, then left that too. While that was happening, Ellen got another TV show and became a ver ystrong media commodity.

Who on TV doesn’t owe something to someone? Ellen bought Rosie the space to come out, and note that neither woman is poor today. Ellen seems less confrontational by nature; as far as the pet thing goes, everybody has their emotional point where they’re gonna do what they have to so they get to who/what/where they need to. Ellen went first, Rosie followed. Each has her own style. Both are closer to their true styles now than they were when their respective controversies arose. I think both make a positive difference.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:58:30 +0000

I liked her sitcom. I like this show.

She does what she supposed on the show. Entertain.

Expecting every Gay woman to be an in your face militant lesbian is the same as expecting ever Gay man to be a prissy girly queen. Both are unrealistic.

We come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and demeanors.

Don’t criticize her because she’s not you.

P.S. Rosie always seemed fake on her show. She seems more “real” now. I like it.

By: The Menstruator

The Menstruator — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:13:01 +0000

I enjoyed the sentiment of this piece. You must be a very positive human.
Ellen is a puppet in many ways. She panders to the heterosexual community and everyone knows. She is a “safe” representation. She can’t speak for me. We don’t even speak the same language. She did cash in on the gay. Everyone needs a gay, is more what she proves. Which was sort of the point of the piece I liked. Maybe if everyone who needs a gay would stand up for the gays we’d be ok.