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Duffy: “All fags should die”

By Michael Duffy, 365gay blogger 04.22.2009 4:32pm EDT
Culture & Ideas

I was just on a weeklong mission near the Baghdad Airport and was happy to be back on my own Forward Operating Base (FOB). Then I was sent on another mission lasting a few days.

“All fags should die” one of my colleagues said to me today. We started the brief discussion after we found a folder on one of the desktop computers that contained short bestiality vids at the Morale and Welfare building. The local nationals and the other countries that support the war in Iraq have some varied tastes, apparently.

Somehow, the mention of a man that was rumored to have died after participating in a sexual act with a horse set this soldier off on gays. He went on to say that they are a “bad influence on open minded kids”- an all-too-familiar conservative claim.

I was trying to remain calm and understanding. At the same time, I had to hold my tongue and my fists. I wonder what it is like for other soldiers like me that feel they have to shut up and even play along.

I’m not other soldiers, though, and I’m trained as a social worker – so I tried to keep my reaction subdued while attempting to defend myself from his ignorant insults. The vehicle commander (actually TC or tank commander, but we’re not in tanks anymore), bought me some time, because he said, “We need gays and lesbians… well lesbians at least” and they went on with some chauvinist banter about how hot lesbians can be.

When the nauseated feeling quelled in the pit of my stomach, I chose my words carefully.

“So all gays should die?” I asked.

That simple, open-ended question was enough to have the other two thinking and talking about their experience with gays and lesbians. The vocal one with the violent comment began to talk about his sister’s friend who is a gun-toting, hunting redneck who you would never suspect was gay.

“He works on cars and hangs with us guys. His boyfriend is cool too,” my colleague said.

Then the TC started in with his experience with a particular lesbian he has known for awhile and how cool he thinks she is.

My fists unclenched slightly. This sudden relaxation of murderous comments gave me hope.

“So not all gays are bad then?” I asked.

These open-ended questions are common when providing therapy. They also keep me from having to actually express an opinion and open myself up to getting ridiculed or worse. My colleague the homophobe explained that it’s not all gays he doesn’t like – just the ones that put themselves out there, and “rub it in your face.”

“So you don’t like gay guys or you don’t like feminine guys?” I said.

This question, while I hope it made him think some, wasn’t answered. He continued along the “gays that rub it in your face” line. He compared the more flamboyant gays with his hunting, car-fixing gay buddy. He explained about how they didn’t show public displays of affection and even danced with girls when they went out- while still being open about being gay.

So – he doesn’t believe all gays should die after all, though he clearly still has some misguided opinions. But what if I hadn’t asked my question? Would he have assumed that I or the TC agreed with him? Although I still had to listen to him call others “fag” and use the word in a few different ways to describe other people, I was glad that there seemed to be some hope for this Southern-bred soldier.

On a lighter note – I related this story to my roommate, just now. I came out to him two weeks ago, and he said, “[He’s] an idiot and I make it obvious I don’t like him.”
Although I don’t wish negativity on anyone I confess that it did give me a little relief.

“Michael Duffy” is a pseudonym for a gay soldier stationed in the Middle East. He blogs regularly for 365gay.com.


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  • Joe in Decatur, GA Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 12:15 am
    • Thanks for the post, Michael, and thanks for serving our country.

  • Jud Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 am
    • Thank you soo much serving our country. You have my thoughts and prayers.

  • Corey Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 3:03 am
    • Ending DADT will not change anything or get rid of the bigotry in the barracks. Gay Israeli and British, both out and in the closet/suspected get beaten and face relentless harassment and emotional abuse every day. You can’t change the ignorance in society, it exists everywhere from Vermont to Georgia, from Russia to Sweden. Homophobia is a cornerstone of every society known to man.

  • TigerTzu Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 3:40 am
    • Corey Said: “Homophobia is a cornerstone of every society known to man.”

      Actually, it isn’t, or wasn’t. Native Americans were very accepting of homosexuality for the most part and some tribes even considered them holy people.

  • Aiden Raccoon Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 am
    • So was the horse male or female? My ex roommate is bi but he’s also a totally straight zoo. He only wants to be with female horses and dogs, though he never did this when he lived with me.

  • Brandon Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
    • Well you’re way more tactiful than I was but then I guess there’s a different atmosphere where you are. There’s no way I’d leg fag be said in front of me. But then I do have the luxury of using my uncle and cousin…

      I think you did a good job with what you did though. Maybe that “homophobe” will feel more comfortable and ask you questions. Typically what’s what happened with me.

      With the newer generation comming into the ranks these “comments” will start to dissapate I think.

  • Gay Man Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 am
    • TigerTzu, some Native American tribes accepted homosexuality because it was gender-typed where one male dressed and acted as a woman and the other as a man. Therefore it did not break heterosexual conventions.

      I agree with Corey. Heterosexuals live everywhere we do. Heterosexuals are the creators and pertatuators of anti-gay bigotry (and equality in every other form). Which means anti-gay bigotry is omnipresent.

      I just want to repeat what I wrote earlier because it’s needs to be looked at by every gay person. Heterosexuals want gay men to be effeminate. It fits into heterosexual conventions where a person who gets penetrated sexually is womanly. Also heterosexual males do not want anyone challenging their masculinity. They want masculine identity all to themselves.

  • Brandon Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 8:16 am
    • American Indians (as most of us still prefer) were usually Okay with Homosexuality because we were very much pro-Liberty. I know the Mvskoke (Creek) would tell folks to live somewhere else if they didn’t agree with the acceptance in a Tvlwv (town). Please be careful with a broad brush. The South East was mainly my people and the Chickasaw and Choctaw. We didn’t consider it “holy”. There’s actually a mixed history in how homosexuals were treated among my own alone.

  • Disgusted American Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
    • shame there isn’t a “set” time – where every service member (woman/man) came OUT…what are they gonna do? Throw them all out at the same time? They can’t afford too. America makes me sick.

  • Ryan Wilson Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 am
    • I wonder if the homophibia expressed by Mr. “Fags Must Die” isn’t more damaging to morale in the case of Duffy’s roommate making obvious that he doesn’t like him, than having LGBT people serving openly in the military. One begs to ask, by allowing machisimo, homophobia, male shovenism, and racism, doesn’t that do more to damage unit morale than one of us being gay or lesbian? Just a thought-

  • Courtney Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
    • I am so glad you spoke up.
      So many times I avoid confronting bigoted or heterosexist statements for fear of confrontation. Thank you for taking this guy on and engaging in dialogue that too few of us don’t have the courage to initiate.

  • Pam Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
    • I understand the feeling, I am not in the service but hear it every day on my school bus where I am an aide for troubled kids.
      It does make it hard to keep my mouth shut but I have no intention of getting into a conversation with them about it. They have no idea what they are talking about and have no idea how hateful they sound.

  • Jay Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 am
    • I appreciate your candor, Michael, and the risks you take as a gay man in a homophobic profession. So much of the casual homophobia in a military setting is simply masculine bravado: using “fag” is a way of saying “I’m not gay.” It may also indicate deep psychopathology, but usually doesn’t. In any case, thank you for sharing your experiences with us.

  • Mark Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
    • First off my hats off to this solider. It can’t be easy to be in Iraq serving your country and have to put up with this type of crap. It’s always hard to know how to deal with these people, even when you live like I do in NYC. Sometimes the statements are so out there that they catch you off guard. With DADT in place managing to keep your cool and engage this guy in some thought provoking conversation takes nerves of steel and a damn good brain.

  • equalnotspecial Said: April 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
    • This is a good example of how DADT perpetuates the prejudice it was designed to indulge. It teaches that discrimination is acceptable and serves to silence anyone who disagrees. It also uses our tax dollars to teach prejudice and discrimination against us. Because of the message it sends to everyone in and out of the military, I believe getting rid of DADT is even more important that securing marriage rights, though equality of all rights is a worthy goal.

 
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