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	<title>Comments on: Davis: When Gay Seeps out the Seams</title>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/davis-when-gay-seeps-out-the-seams/comment-page-1/#comment-71137</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tara--as a Southerner by birth and upbringing, I can tell you two things about this case.  First, the VAST majority of Southerners are Protestant, and some of those values extend to Catholics.  Second, not many Southern Protestants are likely to show up at the priest&#039;s door at 3 AM.  No, it&#039;s not automatically sexual in nature, but please note that neither side has yet described the &quot;visit&quot; as pastoral in nature.  If it were, then there&#039;s no reason NOT to mention it, because it would stand a good chance of deflating the scandal factor.  Again, what is the strange subtext in many of these posts questioning the nature of the meeting?  If any of you are so eager to uphold the priest&#039;s reputation, then what tells you that the victim was really a hustler or some other architect of fraud?  There&#039;s less evidence of that, yet here are gays ready to assume the worst of one of our own.  Where do you come up with that?  &quot;Innocent until proven guilty&quot; isn&#039;t good enough in this case, and the argument of presumptive 24-hour pastoral care needs to be considered in the cultural context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tara&#8211;as a Southerner by birth and upbringing, I can tell you two things about this case.  First, the VAST majority of Southerners are Protestant, and some of those values extend to Catholics.  Second, not many Southern Protestants are likely to show up at the priest&#8217;s door at 3 AM.  No, it&#8217;s not automatically sexual in nature, but please note that neither side has yet described the &#8220;visit&#8221; as pastoral in nature.  If it were, then there&#8217;s no reason NOT to mention it, because it would stand a good chance of deflating the scandal factor.  Again, what is the strange subtext in many of these posts questioning the nature of the meeting?  If any of you are so eager to uphold the priest&#8217;s reputation, then what tells you that the victim was really a hustler or some other architect of fraud?  There&#8217;s less evidence of that, yet here are gays ready to assume the worst of one of our own.  Where do you come up with that?  &#8220;Innocent until proven guilty&#8221; isn&#8217;t good enough in this case, and the argument of presumptive 24-hour pastoral care needs to be considered in the cultural context.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveW</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It simply saddens me that gays are trapped into the lies of religion just like so many straights.  Just shows us that sexuality does not correlate with intelligence.

But I expect more of gays, who have been bashed by religion for so long.  We should be more educated on this issue by now!

There is a related story on here about &quot;affirming&quot; churches.  What a joke.  &quot;we used to hate you but now we need the money so we are going to tolerate you&quot;.

Why join a cult in the first place regardless of your sexuality?

Ali says it may give people peace, comfort, community.  Well, you can find that without paying into a cult that runs a worldwide exploitation regime.

We are the worst form of apologists when we try to fit religion into our lives....I believe worse than women.  Women should reject religion too since it targets them, but they are part of the &quot;holy matrimony/breeding&quot; scheme and it is harder to reject...but for us, we don&#039;t have that baggage.

Still not getting it over here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It simply saddens me that gays are trapped into the lies of religion just like so many straights.  Just shows us that sexuality does not correlate with intelligence.</p>
<p>But I expect more of gays, who have been bashed by religion for so long.  We should be more educated on this issue by now!</p>
<p>There is a related story on here about &#8220;affirming&#8221; churches.  What a joke.  &#8220;we used to hate you but now we need the money so we are going to tolerate you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why join a cult in the first place regardless of your sexuality?</p>
<p>Ali says it may give people peace, comfort, community.  Well, you can find that without paying into a cult that runs a worldwide exploitation regime.</p>
<p>We are the worst form of apologists when we try to fit religion into our lives&#8230;.I believe worse than women.  Women should reject religion too since it targets them, but they are part of the &#8220;holy matrimony/breeding&#8221; scheme and it is harder to reject&#8230;but for us, we don&#8217;t have that baggage.</p>
<p>Still not getting it over here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised RC and hate to bust you bubble about this being about sex it might not be.  

In the RC church people come to see the priest at all hours.  Sometimes because of grief over the death of a love one, having a crisses of faith such as sexuality identity, drinking, sex, etc.

Have any of you thought that the young man in question might have gone to him because he was confused over his sexuality and sought support from the church.

Have any of you thought that maybe this man went seeing help over his confusion as all children of RC are train to do.  This so-call man of god, Reverend Bradley Barber decided that he have to beat the gayness of this young man.

That this attack was based on Reverend Bradley Barber hatred of gays.  That this young man was a victim of gay bashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised RC and hate to bust you bubble about this being about sex it might not be.  </p>
<p>In the RC church people come to see the priest at all hours.  Sometimes because of grief over the death of a love one, having a crisses of faith such as sexuality identity, drinking, sex, etc.</p>
<p>Have any of you thought that the young man in question might have gone to him because he was confused over his sexuality and sought support from the church.</p>
<p>Have any of you thought that maybe this man went seeing help over his confusion as all children of RC are train to do.  This so-call man of god, Reverend Bradley Barber decided that he have to beat the gayness of this young man.</p>
<p>That this attack was based on Reverend Bradley Barber hatred of gays.  That this young man was a victim of gay bashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bruce--it (NWA Online) was funny, if you feel the need to be *that* serious, then go read the Congressional Quarterly.

Sexual assault is implied in that the encounter took place at a time when the vast majority of people are asleep (or having sex).  You don&#039;t go visit Aunt Margie at 3 AM, right?  You DO go for a booty call at 3 AM.  There&#039;s nothing said about a spiritual emergency, which would be a very valid reason to pop up at the priest&#039;s door (was this at the parsonage?).  If it&#039;s not spiritual counseling, and it&#039;s not a social call (again, what 58-year-old married man has visitors at 3 AM?  No.), then that leaves the presumption of a sexual encounter.  Assuming this goes to trial, the nature of the encounter will be made clear.  Yes, it could be that the whole thing is some hustler trying to make a fast buck off a closeted priest, but remember that it&#039;s the priest who&#039;s under the presumption of keeping hands and genitals to self.  The fact that the accused is a priest does change the case, because part of determining the truth is determining what happened.  If the priest was gonna get some nookie, then the charges are bogus, but he&#039;s violating the standards of conduct laid down by his own church, and that will definitely have consequences.  So there&#039;s the implied sexual nature of the attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bruce&#8211;it (NWA Online) was funny, if you feel the need to be *that* serious, then go read the Congressional Quarterly.</p>
<p>Sexual assault is implied in that the encounter took place at a time when the vast majority of people are asleep (or having sex).  You don&#8217;t go visit Aunt Margie at 3 AM, right?  You DO go for a booty call at 3 AM.  There&#8217;s nothing said about a spiritual emergency, which would be a very valid reason to pop up at the priest&#8217;s door (was this at the parsonage?).  If it&#8217;s not spiritual counseling, and it&#8217;s not a social call (again, what 58-year-old married man has visitors at 3 AM?  No.), then that leaves the presumption of a sexual encounter.  Assuming this goes to trial, the nature of the encounter will be made clear.  Yes, it could be that the whole thing is some hustler trying to make a fast buck off a closeted priest, but remember that it&#8217;s the priest who&#8217;s under the presumption of keeping hands and genitals to self.  The fact that the accused is a priest does change the case, because part of determining the truth is determining what happened.  If the priest was gonna get some nookie, then the charges are bogus, but he&#8217;s violating the standards of conduct laid down by his own church, and that will definitely have consequences.  So there&#8217;s the implied sexual nature of the attack.</p>
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		<title>By: charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray. The closet case outed himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray. The closet case outed himself!</p>
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		<title>By: Twisted Pride</title>
		<link>http://www.365gay.com/blog/davis-when-gay-seeps-out-the-seams/comment-page-1/#comment-70991</link>
		<dc:creator>Twisted Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kari@Jessica@Bruce
Well said!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kari@Jessica@Bruce<br />
Well said!!</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line: while we don&#039;t know the details clearly what ever happened had to be pretty bad for the church to remove a priest. I mean seriously folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line: while we don&#8217;t know the details clearly what ever happened had to be pretty bad for the church to remove a priest. I mean seriously folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>am I missing something?
where does this say &#039;sexual assault&#039;? and if it doesn&#039;t why are we assuming it is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am I missing something?<br />
where does this say &#8216;sexual assault&#8217;? and if it doesn&#8217;t why are we assuming it is?</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leeanne Henry 
&quot;What was this younger man wearing?&quot; As if that is an excuse to rape someone, WTF? 

It is not OK to rape a woman if she is scantily dressed and it isn&#039;t OK to rape a man who dresses similar either. Nor is it appropriate to use that type of defense in a trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leeanne Henry<br />
&#8220;What was this younger man wearing?&#8221; As if that is an excuse to rape someone, WTF? </p>
<p>It is not OK to rape a woman if she is scantily dressed and it isn&#8217;t OK to rape a man who dresses similar either. Nor is it appropriate to use that type of defense in a trial.</p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leeanna: Blaming the victim isn&#039;t cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leeanna: Blaming the victim isn&#8217;t cool.</p>
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