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Withers: Obama wins and the struggle continues

By James Withers, contributing editor, 365Gay Blog 11.05.2008 9:09am EST

Barack Obama\'s speech in Denver

A chapter has closed. After two years of chicken dinners, shaking countless hands, traveling to and speaking in small towns and large urban areas, Barack Hussein Obama is president elect of the United States. For some that is a nightmare, others the culmination of what Langston Hughes called ” a dream deferred.”

Actually it’s neither dream nor nightmare. To dismiss the history making election is foolhardy, but if you have been paying attention to the Obama campaign race is not the game the future 44th president plays. He knows the history of course, probably better than most, but being first only goes so far. If Jackie Robinson wasn’t a great ball player, his place in history would be negligible at best. If W.E.B. DuBois wasn’t a scholar of the finest order, no one would remember him as the first black man to get a doctorate from Harvard.

So when the novelty fades, Obama needs to govern and that is where we will judge him.

Ahh but whenever there is a celebration after an election, it also means some are disappointed. It was a difficult night for same-sex marriage advocates. Florida and Arizona voters supported same sex marriage bans. Out in California,  Proposition 8 numbers are  still coming in and it’s going to be tight.

Sure this is  a loss and I can imagine the comments we are going to get today. With that said, all freedom struggles face obstacles. Being angry today is okay, but the larger question is once the anger subsides what are our next steps for marriage equality. That’s what I want to hear and you should only listen to folk who are talking the future.


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  • V. Gates Said: November 5th, 2008 at 9:51 am
    • Y’all need to get mental treatment and leave the rest of us alone. By favoring same-sex “marriage” you are working to legitimizing a sickness. Surely, you can find a better use for your time and talents than that. Think about it.

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am
    • James, I’m not speaking about you. I’m just angry and I need to rant for a minute. I, as well as others, tried our best to sound the alarm. But many in the gay community absolutely refused to hear the truth! When ABC News did a cover story spelling out how Obama’s African American supporters could very well tip the vote against us; ABC News was actually accused of “attacking minority voters”. I never understood how so many in the gay community could happily overlook Obama’s sad history of associating so freely with homophobic bigots like Donnie McClurkin and Pastor Meeks. Or why so few in the LGBT community spoke out against Obama’s segregationist views about our marriage equality. The Connecticut Supreme Court even ruled that Obama’s favored policy of civil unions were discriminatory to gay people – but nothing could stop a large amount of Gay activists from acting like Obama was the new Jesus! I’m ANGRY! I’m angy at the Obama campaign. I’m angry at my own community for putting blinders on and buying into Obama’s double talk. But most of all I’m angry at myself, for not being able to better communicate how dangerous Obama’s views about gays will be to the LGBT community.

  • Jesus Said: November 5th, 2008 at 10:08 am
    • Dear V. Gates, Y’all need to get mental treatment and leave the rest of us alone. By favoring anti-marriage inequality amendments you are working to legitimizing the sickness of bigotry. Surely, you can find a better use for your pointless life and lack of talents than that. Think about that you homophobic sack of excrement.

      …hugs and kisses…

      With Lots of Love,
      God

  • Jehovah Said: November 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am
    • Right on Brother Wayne! You can say that again!!! …But no one will probably listen.

      This is sad day in America, the land of hate and ignorance, for its most precious and gifted children in the GLBT community are once again martyred on the altar of political expedience and mob stupidity.

      If “god” actually had a “chosen people”, it would have to be us. Watch out bible-bigots, I’d be really scared of judgment day if I were in your evil shoes.

  • Jon in Canada Said: November 5th, 2008 at 10:49 am
    • Ok, so Wayne and Jehovah are angry, so be it. But again I ask, would McCain/Palin have been better? Obviously not, so I will enquire, to both of you….what would be your solution to this quandary. Please be concise and specific, no ‘I told you so’, give me specifics.

      Thanks

      As for V.Gates…..no, upon reflection, you are not worth the time.

  • Jacob Said: November 5th, 2008 at 11:14 am
    • V. Gates you and the people like you are the sickness of the world. Too bad it will take more time to show you that. It’s refreshing to know my generation is much more tolerant.

  • datalore Said: November 5th, 2008 at 11:30 am
    • Hi Jon! How about ending 2 party rule in the USA? How about finding and funding alternatives. I don’t claim to know the American parties, I don’t know whether you have a party over there that has what it takes to be taken seriously but I do know that such a party can be created if people feel a need for it. I hope that with the Internet Americans will realise how 2 parties can never be enough to represent so many people.

  • N. Sanzone Said: November 5th, 2008 at 11:54 am
    • I’m not angry.

      No, I’m really not angry at all…

      But I am very, deeply bitter.

      Certainly, I am incredulous. How could so many Californians do such a thing to us? But I can’t be angry at them any longer, because I no longer believe that the intolerance is due to hate, at its core. Because hate doesn’t exist by itself, without another emotion that, unresolved, gives rise to it. And so I am very bitter, because what I see as the root cause here is fear.

      Fear.

      But why, WHY? What is there about us that causes so much fear, that people should be so violently opposed to the concept of our having equality, and the liberty to seek our happiness?

      When so many people fear that my opportunity for happiness will bring about the destruction of their world, it’s difficult to be anything BUT bitter.

      At this time, in this place, there is not much gayety to to found right now.

  • Randy Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
    • “V Gates” is a very good (although extreme) example as to why we lost so dramatically last night. The idea or concept that we are different, able to be fixed or just sick, still permeates our society, in varying degrees, but it is there plain and simple.

      Here is the reality the Gay community is yet to accept. The majority of the “straight” communities still consider us a fringe group. Much of their positions are based on their religious and social backgrounds.

      We as a community have to continue the struggle and show ourselves to be the respectful group that we all know we are. We are basically at the same junction (in our history) as the African American community was at in the 1960’s. Remember not even 60 years ago it was illegal in many states for a white person to marry a black person. How absurd does that sound now? We will have to continue to struggle and deal with defeats like we saw last night until a good portion of my fathers generation dies and we may have to see a large portion of the following generation to die as well before we see the change we all want. That doesn’t mean we don’t continue the fight, it just means we need to be more realistic about our expectations.

      Our civil rights were trampled on last night in many states (Arizona, Arkansas, California and Florida) but we gone on as we have in the past and hope for a better day. I can only hope that I see that day in my lifetime.

  • Clayton Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    • Well, it is just not going to be as easy as we had hoped. We all got stars in our eyes with CA marriage equality.

      There was “separate but equal” with race before there was equality, and equality in law before it was in the hearts of the people. After many years people realized that it was not equal, and now we have seen that race is hopefully becoming a very small factor in this country.

      We will have to fight to keep total equality where we have it (CT, MA) and fight to get “separate but equal” to the places that don’t (NY, IL esp. but others, hopefully the US). Once people see that we are just normal loving people, they will start to see that separate is not equal.

      We just have to take a queue from those that came before us. We continue to use our money and vote and 1st Amendment rights to slowly change peoples minds. It’s just not going to be as easy as we thought it would on that fateful day with the CA Supreme Court decided that separate is not equal.

  • TheRadicalRealist Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
    • I concur with datalore, there are other options out there that offer real change from the tyrannical 2-party system. For one, Ralph Nader ran as Independent and he has always been an unashamed and unwavering supporter of full and complete rights for LGBT people. Also Mike Gravel, a former Democrat, now in the Libertarian Party, also supports LGBT equality. The problem is that people are afraid to get behind those outside of the ruling 2 parties. People need to realize that it is not black and white; that there are more than two choices. A big enough movement from the people towards these other parties could make a big difference, especially for issues that the ruling 2 parties write off as unimportant and put on the back burner. (Like LGBT civil rights, for one) Such a movement would require tremendous grassroots efforts, as the mainstream media is afraid of and completely ignores third-party candidates, since the mainstream media is powered by those unwilling to give up the two-party stranglehold on the US.

  • Wayne Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
    • Very few in the gay community, and our so called “Gay Press” for that matter, even bothered to batt an eye when Obama had “Faith Tours” headed up by “Yes on Prop 8″ shills that targeted African American churches in California. In fact when ABC News had the temerity to do a hard hitting story detailing that a large majority of the African American community that were inspired to vote for Obama were also planning to vote Yes on Prop 8; a blogger on this website accused ABC News of “attacking minority voters”; yet exit polling shows that nearly over 50% of Latino men 75% of African American women voted yes on Prop 8 (these are the very women who attend the churches Obama targeted during his “Faith Tours”).

      (Prop 8 polling data can be found at the advocate website)

  • william Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
    • everyone i said before start a boycott
      no money no jobs start with utah
      and check out the green party
      they advocate full gay rights
      remember greenparty.com

  • 5by5 Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
    • My headline for today?

      Signs Above Water Fountains Swapped: No Longer Read “Negro”, Now Read “Gay”

      America elected a Black man, while simultaneously forgetting what true equality actually means.

      Pathetic and lame.

  • william Said: November 5th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
    • I said before start a boycott start with
      Utah no money no jobs also check out
      the green party full gay rights
      greenparty.com

 
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