Subscribe to Breaking NewsWithers: Reason 457 why I distrust (some) straights
Andrew Sullivan needs no support from me. And from what little I know about the man he would be dismissive of it. Sully has a habit of calling anyone who disagrees with him as either unthinking or a wannabe destroyer of American life (remember how ballistic he went when anyone questioned the Iraq War?). With that said, please pay attention to an email sent to him yesterday.
Sullivan has been hammering away at the White House for its lack of action on DADT. Yes there are moments when his pen can go over the top (heck, even he will cop to that), but giving President Obama grief for not doing enough on DADT is honorable work. Even Obama admitted as much when he spoke to HRC Saturday night. Well according to an emailer, Sullivan’s stand on the matter is “embarrassing” because the White House has more pressing issues.
This is a position worth discussing, but the emailer (called from here on in as smug straight person, SSP) isn’t concerned about conversation. Instead he just wants to say what a fag Sullivan is.
“Geez, you’re a princess. Gay people account for what? 9% of the population? That much? Heterosexual sex is the ability to replicate consciousness. All wonders of the universe are created by the union of sperm and egg. The sperm and the egg have created everything.”
Not the “straight coupling is so transcendent” line! I wonder does the emailer have this same thought when his wife goes down on him before she takes their kids to school? Or maybe when he’s begging to do her in the booty? Could be this thought passes his mind when he is lusting over some television tart. Nothing against straight sex but let’s be fair here: when they go at it, most heterosexuals are not looking to “replicate consciousness.”
While opposite sex atteraction is a union of the gods, gay love is…wait for it….”a cross” and SSP wants Sullivan to bear his silently and recognize how his gayness keeps him away from the higher love of his straight peers. I’m assuming that search for the ethereal is why Gov. Mark Sanford went to Argentina so many times.
Oh, but SSP is not done. He has one more flourish.
“Go suck a dick, and suck it up, sweetheart.”
There it is. That straight conceit. The card too many heterosexuals play when they need to put us in our place for our uppity behavior. Take care of their churches, serve in the military, teach their children, clean their houses, show compassion to their sick and dying, pay taxes, entertain them, be their neighbors, but no sounds about rights or our relationships. Just suck dick. That’s all we are good for.
James Martin: Right on…I used to read Sullivan but got tired of his twisted logic that allows him to remain a cultist in light of the concentrated effort they have put forth against humanity.
Someone who cannot quit the cult even with what they do to us loses credibility before even speaking.
Am I missing something, or wasn’t the point of the thread that there are those certain str8s who presume to hold ultimate right to judge gays solely because the str8 is str8?
I saw something similar in the thread about the fat guy in the scooter at Walmart. Just what the hell is it that makes some of you so reflexively defensive of the possibility of misunderstanding, even when you could well be the target and consequent victim of what was absolutely no “misunderstanding”?
It’s the notion of privilege. The e-mail writer demonstrated a notion of privilege by suggesting that Andrew Sullivan should “Suck a dick, and suck it up, sweetheart.” A cocksucking man is innately inferior to a pussy-fucking one. If that’s too graphic for you, then you don’t belong in the discussion.
This came up in the prior thread with the dude in the scooter. Any of you grow up with anyone disabled? Are you so naive that it never occured to you that disability doesn’t stop people from homophobia? If so, you’re assuming that “the cripple” would never have that thought, most likely because s/he couldn’t–they’re too far down the ladder. That’s a statement of presumed privilege in itself.
Do you think non-whites can’t be racist? Do you think women can’t be sexist? Do you think people from third-world countries are somehow devoid of prejudices because they haven’t been contaminated by ultra-materialistic societies? Those are all lies and delusions. You believe any of those, you’re denying those people the capacity to form their own opinions, for good or ill. Some would call it seeing the worst in others. I would call it having the wisdom and humility to not preassign roles or functions to people, or relative worth for that matter. Not one of us gets it right every time. Better to live in the wisdom of not knowing and working not to presume, than to assign arbitrary groups of people with an immunity to very human behavior.
I would like to write a letter to Sullivan, too, but it would have nothing to do, directly, with his sexual orientation. Mr. Sullivan is a practicing Catholic and thus an enabler of the biggest hoax ever perpetrated against mankind: Christeranity.
plain and simple some people can be ass holes, whether gay, straight, black, white, tall or short. yeah plain and simple here folks.
I am a straight person who ministers to and advocates for the LGBT community and full equality in society. I read this site often because there are a lot of good opinions put forth and important questions raised. I believe, however, that this post serves neither you, 365gay, or the LGBT community very well at all. Instead of focusing on one hateful e-mail as a basis for your partial(?) distrust of straight people, why don’t you get back to advocacy and concentrate on giving both straight and LGBT people a reason to trust you–the bridge needs to be built from both sides.
Yhitzak,
Not to be funky here, but I suggest you reread the post. I was talking about an attitude shared by some straights. Made that clear. Anyone who reads it as an attack on straights is not a careful reader.
Be well.
Sincerely,
James
Thanks for inspiring me to leave this site alone, Withers. I don’t come here for glorification of gayness OR to revile heterosexuals, but that seems to be the order of the day since the march on DC. Damn am I sick of this Us versus The Other. Instead of highlighting the pure and simple stupidity of this email, you have to turn it around and attack heterosexuals. But I keep forgetting that it’s only hypocrisy when someone *else* does it.
“All wonders of the universe are created by the union of sperm and egg. The sperm and the egg have created everything.” I just want to know who hooked up to create black holes.
@said: “The fact is ’some’ PEOPLE are stupid, mean, biased jerks who aim their vitriol at a specific class of PEOPLE different than themselves.” You neglected that to point out that “some” does not exclusively mean straight. Some gay people are that way, too.
James, this generalization about all straight people on the basis of a single e-mail (or even 457 e-mails) is offensive. Lots of straight people have been good allies. I wish our straight “fierce advocate” would be a better ally, but I think the problem with him is not that he is straight, but that he is a politician who for some reason wants to be loved by conservatives. In any case, we need to cultivate straight supporters of gay rights, not alienate them. (Haven’t I heard something along these lines about how we need to reach out to religious minorities?)
Oh fishticks. I meant heterophobic in my last post, and I saw it for the post to facebook section, fixed it and it didn’t change what posted here.
Wow. I mean really? As often as you harp on racism this is a little . . . well I can’t think of another word, offensive.
Have you ever sat down and talked with someone hydrophobic about straight people? It’s shockingly offensive. That’s why I hate the word breeder, I hates it with a violent passion. As with all derogatory terms I feel it should only be used by individuals who it was originally aimed at, and members of the community who coined it who wish to satire those who would use it in seriousness.
There is no purpose to this statement other than to associate a specific type of negativeness with a specific community. The tagging of (some) onto your topic doesn’t even come close to being adequate.
The fact is “some” PEOPLE are stupid, mean, biased jerks who aim their vitriol at a specific class of PEOPLE different than themselves. This phenomenon manifests in all communities including our own, so lets just call it what it is, treat everyone as equal, even the jerks and stop propagating this type of filth?
I fail to see what a rabidly homophobic and heterosexist letter received by Andrew Sullivan says about whether we can trust straight people.
Let’s not use that broad brush for this paint job…