Comments on: Withers: Going to DC, but not learning from DC? http://www.365gay.com/blog/092909-not-taking-lessons-from-dc-natives-is-foolish/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Yhitzak http://www.365gay.com/blog/092909-not-taking-lessons-from-dc-natives-is-foolish/comment-page-1/#comment-73688 Yhitzak Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:52:42 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=9882#comment-73688 How are you going to this march as a bystander? Will you stand outside of the groups of people marching and merely observe? How will you ensure that you are not counted among the protesters if you are merely a bystander? Sorry, but this idea doesn't make any sense. Not holding a sign doesn't make you a non-participant. For example. I think you ask a really important question, Withers: why is DC getting no national love for marriage equality? Maybe because so many vocal GLBT people seem to think that NOW means thirty years ago, and while that would be nice, it simply isn't going to happen. It didn't happen. Additionally, there's tons of bitterness among GLBT people that I think has really impacted the "community" on the whole and driven the worst common denominator out of the woodwork. Instead of being grateful for getting legal equality at ANY point, too many GLBT people are snubbing efforts because they aren't made by overtly gay people, because baby steps in legislation aren't good enough, because they believe that their struggle is somehow indicative of some other right to put the democratic process out of order, because they don't -in fact- want equality, they want social acceptance without having to be socially acceptable. The Us and Them battle isn't between gays and straights, it's between all people with unique points of view. Getting equal rights depends on ALL people working together. And I'm sorry, but I have to disagree about the publicity of this march. I first read/heard about it on this website and have found very, very little else relating to it on other, news related websites. Even my local GLBT Center only links back to this site on its main page (referencing this post and the bit on Rachel Watch), there's no other mention of the march anywhere on their site. This is a huge community hub for most of the state! Maybe the problem is that with not talking to or working with local communities, the organizers of this march shot themselves in the foot. They really haven't done a very good job getting the word out. Unless you haunt gay websites, that is. Heh. How are you going to this march as a bystander? Will you stand outside of the groups of people marching and merely observe? How will you ensure that you are not counted among the protesters if you are merely a bystander? Sorry, but this idea doesn’t make any sense. Not holding a sign doesn’t make you a non-participant. For example.

I think you ask a really important question, Withers: why is DC getting no national love for marriage equality? Maybe because so many vocal GLBT people seem to think that NOW means thirty years ago, and while that would be nice, it simply isn’t going to happen. It didn’t happen. Additionally, there’s tons of bitterness among GLBT people that I think has really impacted the “community” on the whole and driven the worst common denominator out of the woodwork. Instead of being grateful for getting legal equality at ANY point, too many GLBT people are snubbing efforts because they aren’t made by overtly gay people, because baby steps in legislation aren’t good enough, because they believe that their struggle is somehow indicative of some other right to put the democratic process out of order, because they don’t -in fact- want equality, they want social acceptance without having to be socially acceptable. The Us and Them battle isn’t between gays and straights, it’s between all people with unique points of view. Getting equal rights depends on ALL people working together.

And I’m sorry, but I have to disagree about the publicity of this march. I first read/heard about it on this website and have found very, very little else relating to it on other, news related websites. Even my local GLBT Center only links back to this site on its main page (referencing this post and the bit on Rachel Watch), there’s no other mention of the march anywhere on their site. This is a huge community hub for most of the state! Maybe the problem is that with not talking to or working with local communities, the organizers of this march shot themselves in the foot. They really haven’t done a very good job getting the word out. Unless you haunt gay websites, that is. Heh.

]]> By: Pati Di http://www.365gay.com/blog/092909-not-taking-lessons-from-dc-natives-is-foolish/comment-page-1/#comment-73686 Pati Di Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:19:36 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=9882#comment-73686 What's with the constant in-fighting in the LGBT community??? We are always bitching about how some other organization could and/or should have done or not done something the way they did as we sit on our ever-expanding asses in front of the TV watching or computer blogging...how American of us. It's never too late to come together. It's never too late to reach out to the local community. I'm still trying to figure out if this march is appropriate for our 6, 8, and 10 year olds that will be joinin us. But we're going... At this point in our struggle for equal civil rights we NEED to be open to new ideas and participate in every way that we can to further the movement. The opposition does a great job of sticking together regardless of who came up with the anti-gay campaign "of the moment". We need to do the same. We are much stronger united. Do not let them divide us. Peace. What’s with the constant in-fighting in the LGBT community??? We are always bitching about how some other organization could and/or should have done or not done something the way they did as we sit on our ever-expanding asses in front of the TV watching or computer blogging…how American of us. It’s never too late to come together. It’s never too late to reach out to the local community. I’m still trying to figure out if this march is appropriate for our 6, 8, and 10 year olds that will be joinin us. But we’re going… At this point in our struggle for equal civil rights we NEED to be open to new ideas and participate in every way that we can to further the movement. The opposition does a great job of sticking together regardless of who came up with the anti-gay campaign “of the moment”. We need to do the same. We are much stronger united. Do not let them divide us. Peace.

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