Comments on: Withers: Prop 8 passed because of pathetic planning http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/ The daily news source for the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:11:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Kevin http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46488 Kevin Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:42:49 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46488 Bingo, Dave. This is not the first time this has happened. Remember, the Windy City Times in Chicago miraculously found the 1996 questionnaire of Obama's after the election. That was the questionnaire that said he supported same-sex marriage. Incompetence on part of the No On 8 campaign? Maybe. Or was this the Wisdom of Solomonese with marriage equality in California on the line? Oh, and don't get me started on the David Geffen seed money. Obama owes the gay community big time. Bingo, Dave.

This is not the first time this has happened. Remember, the Windy City Times in Chicago miraculously found the 1996 questionnaire of Obama’s after the election. That was the questionnaire that said he supported same-sex marriage.

Incompetence on part of the No On 8 campaign? Maybe. Or was this the Wisdom of Solomonese with marriage equality in California on the line?

Oh, and don’t get me started on the David Geffen seed money.

Obama owes the gay community big time.

]]> By: tjr http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46477 tjr Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:00:59 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46477 No on 8 was the most pathetic campaign I have ever seen. There was no outreach to minority communities, reasonable religious folks and the ads were impersonal and irrelevant. Some of you commenting just don't seem to get the fact that if you support gay marriage you WILL NOT GET ELECTED TO HIGHER OFFICE. Obama is a politian and knows this, Hillary is a politian and knows this, everyone knows this but you guys. So stop harping about how Obama is a hypocrite. Mainstream America is just not ready for same sex marraige its reality. "Obama lied to us and is a hypocrite." So you feel betrayed, get over it. No on 8 was the most pathetic campaign I have ever seen. There was no outreach to minority communities, reasonable religious folks and the ads were impersonal and irrelevant.

Some of you commenting just don’t seem to get the fact that if you support gay marriage you WILL NOT GET ELECTED TO HIGHER OFFICE. Obama is a politian and knows this, Hillary is a politian and knows this, everyone knows this but you guys. So stop harping about how Obama is a hypocrite.

Mainstream America is just not ready for same sex marraige its reality. “Obama lied to us and is a hypocrite.” So you feel betrayed, get over it.

]]> By: ozzy http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46468 ozzy Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:00:10 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46468 I agree that the No on 8 campaign sucked big time. Yes on 8 made it about the kids. No on 8 made it about invisible people, probably voters thought that perverts at the circuit parties, or the funny hairdresser don't need marriages. They never crossed their mind about the other gays, no gay families were shown at anytime or any moment. To be sincere the only thing I remember about the no on 8 campaign was about how bad the past was when Asians couldn't marry Whites and such. By not putting a real face to the terrible consequences of prop 8 most voters kept in mind the children, in 2008, not Asian with White romance in 1910 or whatever. I agree that the No on 8 campaign sucked big time. Yes on 8 made it about the kids. No on 8 made it about invisible people, probably voters thought that perverts at the circuit parties, or the funny hairdresser don’t need marriages. They never crossed their mind about the other gays, no gay families were shown at anytime or any moment. To be sincere the only thing I remember about the no on 8 campaign was about how bad the past was when Asians couldn’t marry Whites and such. By not putting a real face to the terrible consequences of prop 8 most voters kept in mind the children, in 2008, not Asian with White romance in 1910 or whatever.

]]> By: Dave W. http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46446 Dave W. Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:07:25 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46446 James is correct. The campaign was terrible. There are professionals that can do better in their sleep. For me I sat here in my comfortable Mass wedding and didn't do enough..i've learned. I hope we all have. I just bought a case of Spanish wine aka Shawn's suggestion.....California will feel the loss of my families wine spend! There is a bigger issue here that some people bring up: Obama lied to us and is a blatant hypocrite. Yes, what smart pol would support gay marriage, why hurt one of our so called allies when we have so few...but the reality is he lied to that Dem group in California. Not for gay marriage, we all knew that...why congratulate them? I'll tell you why...he knew that letter wouldn't see the light of day. We need to call him on that NOW. We called him on stem cells and he FINALLY did the right thing. I called him on religious freedom but he caved with the horrible hate-based office. We need to call him on this...we need to publish that letter and ask why he has two positions on the issue: one in private, one to get elected. He's already elected, so there is less risk than when the letter was written James is correct. The campaign was terrible. There are professionals that can do better in their sleep.

For me I sat here in my comfortable Mass wedding and didn’t do enough..i’ve learned. I hope we all have.

I just bought a case of Spanish wine aka Shawn’s suggestion…..California will feel the loss of my families wine spend!

There is a bigger issue here that some people bring up: Obama lied to us and is a blatant hypocrite. Yes, what smart pol would support gay marriage, why hurt one of our so called allies when we have so few…but the reality is he lied to that Dem group in California. Not for gay marriage, we all knew that…why congratulate them?

I’ll tell you why…he knew that letter wouldn’t see the light of day.

We need to call him on that NOW. We called him on stem cells and he FINALLY did the right thing. I called him on religious freedom but he caved with the horrible hate-based office.

We need to call him on this…we need to publish that letter and ask why he has two positions on the issue: one in private, one to get elected.

He’s already elected, so there is less risk than when the letter was written

]]> By: James Withers http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46438 James Withers Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:34:39 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46438 cm, No attempt to rewrite history. The "No" folk ran a terrible campaign. As for Obama and marriage, I've made my thoughts clear on his position. Here is a link in case you forgot. Enjoy your day. http://www.365gay.com/blog/102108-prop-8-ca-and-race/ cm,

No attempt to rewrite history. The “No” folk ran a terrible campaign. As for Obama and marriage, I’ve made my thoughts clear on his position. Here is a link in case you forgot. Enjoy your day.

http://www.365gay.com/blog/102108-prop-8-ca-and-race/

]]> By: cm http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46435 cm Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:08:12 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46435 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8BcWLarJg Watch and pay attention. "I have not said that I am a supporter of gay marriage." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWqLcCBOzEM&feature=related "I WILL TELL YOU, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN GAY MARRIAGE." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwsmgzitc0w&feature=related Sonja Eddings of "Protect Marriage": "We thank Barak Obama... ...for helping us. We think he's going to put it over the top." Enough with the revisionist history James. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8BcWLarJg

Watch and pay attention. “I have not said that I am a supporter of gay marriage.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWqLcCBOzEM&feature=related
“I WILL TELL YOU, THAT I DON’T BELIEVE IN GAY MARRIAGE.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwsmgzitc0w&feature=related
Sonja Eddings of “Protect Marriage”:
“We thank Barak Obama… …for helping us. We think he’s going to put it over the top.”

Enough with the revisionist history James.

]]> By: cm http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-2/#comment-46431 cm Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:53:55 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46431 What the f**k point is a letter, when Obama is on national television at the same time saying he doesn't believe in gay marriage. Let's not re-write history here folks. What the f**k point is a letter, when Obama is on national television at the same time saying he doesn’t believe in gay marriage.

Let’s not re-write history here folks.

]]> By: Frankly http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-46424 Frankly Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:46:02 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46424 You want to know why? We don't have a national leader with foresight, intuition and charisma. Until we do, we are going to be screwed. And not in a good way. You want to know why?

We don’t have a national leader with foresight, intuition and charisma. Until we do, we are going to be screwed. And not in a good way.

]]> By: Randy http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-46420 Randy Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:56:41 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46420 Statements from that letter, along with Obama's photo, should have been on a postcard sent to every home in California. And Obama would have had to explain how he doesn't believe in same-sex marriage, but still wants to repeal DOMA, oppose Prop 8 and FMA, and congratulate same-sex married couples. Clearly the Democratic club decided it was more important to make Obama look good, than it was to defend us. Statements from that letter, along with Obama’s photo, should have been on a postcard sent to every home in California. And Obama would have had to explain how he doesn’t believe in same-sex marriage, but still wants to repeal DOMA, oppose Prop 8 and FMA, and congratulate same-sex married couples. Clearly the Democratic club decided it was more important to make Obama look good, than it was to defend us.

]]> By: shawn http://www.365gay.com/blog/030909-letter-from-obama-was-not-used-in-prop-8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-46410 shawn Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:39:00 +0000 http://www.365gay.com/?p=5843#comment-46410 Can anyone here say "boycott California"! Time to let the hetero pukes in cali know EXACTLY how we feel!! If the Religious Pukes think that the boycott against their putrid little WITHIN state businesses sucked well guess what....imagine their dismay when this lil' ol' faggot refuses to buy ANYTHING coming out of the puke conservative state of californication!!! LMAO! Yupper, I've said it once and I'll say it again, give me New England cider over Right Wing Red Wine! LMFAO!! Oh, that includes ANY and ALL tourism to California too! Peace all. Can anyone here say “boycott California”! Time to let the hetero pukes in cali know EXACTLY how we feel!! If the Religious Pukes think that the boycott against their putrid little WITHIN state businesses sucked well guess what….imagine their dismay when this lil’ ol’ faggot refuses to buy ANYTHING coming out of the puke conservative state of californication!!! LMAO! Yupper, I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, give me New England cider over Right Wing Red Wine! LMFAO!! Oh, that includes ANY and ALL tourism to California too! Peace all.

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