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	<title>Comments on: Withers: Let&#8217;s not get too heated over Prop 8 money</title>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until we start to protest this type of racism and until gay people will actually start to boycott companies that do not support our cause- nothing will be done. We have to unite and realize that this topic should get under your skin, it should seed and manifest itself deeply, so that you are no longer looking at it like as a marriage issue but as a human rights issue. We need large numbers and we need to get loud. Look at history. Only strides are made when the minority shows its frustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until we start to protest this type of racism and until gay people will actually start to boycott companies that do not support our cause- nothing will be done. We have to unite and realize that this topic should get under your skin, it should seed and manifest itself deeply, so that you are no longer looking at it like as a marriage issue but as a human rights issue. We need large numbers and we need to get loud. Look at history. Only strides are made when the minority shows its frustration.</p>
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		<title>By: jose-vera</title>
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		<dc:creator>jose-vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDDIE IN L. A.
Since you can&#039;t put together good posts like WITHERS does, you call him names? He&#039;s a good, rational, intelligent writer. You? you are a  hater who has nothing to offer but name calling. You should be blogging at Drudge, not this post. THANX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDDIE IN L. A.<br />
Since you can&#8217;t put together good posts like WITHERS does, you call him names? He&#8217;s a good, rational, intelligent writer. You? you are a  hater who has nothing to offer but name calling. You should be blogging at Drudge, not this post. THANX.</p>
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		<title>By: Gay Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gay Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan, haterosexuals are the oppressors.

Read this study on how anti-gay prejudice works.  
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2294/is_/ai_66011966</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan, haterosexuals are the oppressors.</p>
<p>Read this study on how anti-gay prejudice works.<br />
<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2294/is_/ai_66011966" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2294/is_/ai_66011966</a></p>
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		<title>By: Casey Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a real hard time following this story.  People didn&#039;t give to Prop HATE just because they didn&#039;t know enough about same-sex marriage.  THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING!  I am sorry, homophobia is a choice.  Homophobia comes from mental laziness or reaction.  Either way, not something I have to accept.  It seems to me that some people in the equal marriage movement refuse to accept that people just hate us.  When a brick goes through the window of a pro-8 church, I don&#039;t feel sorry for them.  You reap what you sow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a real hard time following this story.  People didn&#8217;t give to Prop HATE just because they didn&#8217;t know enough about same-sex marriage.  THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING!  I am sorry, homophobia is a choice.  Homophobia comes from mental laziness or reaction.  Either way, not something I have to accept.  It seems to me that some people in the equal marriage movement refuse to accept that people just hate us.  When a brick goes through the window of a pro-8 church, I don&#8217;t feel sorry for them.  You reap what you sow.</p>
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		<title>By: James Withers</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Withers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie,

OK! Thanks for the advice. :-)

Hope you are having a good day.

Sincerely,

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie,</p>
<p>OK! Thanks for the advice. <img src='http://www.365gay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hope you are having a good day.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie in LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another post from the champion of spinelessness - James Withers.

James why don&#039;t you just stick to the two things you do best - 

Pissing and moaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another post from the champion of spinelessness &#8211; James Withers.</p>
<p>James why don&#8217;t you just stick to the two things you do best &#8211; </p>
<p>Pissing and moaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all depends on what you mean by gettin heated. Boycotting businesses that supported the passage  Proposition 8 (and getting the news out about those boycotts) is a perfectly legitimate form of civil protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all depends on what you mean by gettin heated. Boycotting businesses that supported the passage  Proposition 8 (and getting the news out about those boycotts) is a perfectly legitimate form of civil protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian
in just 33 days, the Supreme Court of California is taking up the challenges to Prop 8 and working on them, that is the latest word out of California as of the evening of Tuesday, February January 3rd.

In just barely a month&#039;s time, OK? 

I am not going through handwringing and self-flagellation unless the Supreme Court of California rules for Prop 8 which hopefully they won&#039;t. Since after all, it ruled in favor of marriage equality in May of 2008, less than a year ago.

And Brian, if you looked around the comments for the last  months before and since Nov, 4, 2008 Prop H8 has been on our minds for a long time. It is still on our minds, it is on my mind every day. I keep looking for any news related to when the CA Supreme Court would take up the challenges to Prop 8 submitted to it a while ago. And again as of last night, the word is that CA Supreme Court has said it would handle Prop 8 challenges on March 5th of 2009. It might render a decision on that day or thereabouts but it is taking the matter up on that day, that is the day on its calendar to deal with Prop 8 for now.

I don&#039;t know about you, Brian, but I plan to mark that day down and plan to stay tuned.

I have shoved wide-stance Larry Craig out of my mind, this resolution of the Prop 8 problem and the restoration of ASAP of California marriage equality is of far greater impact for the future of gay America and our land as a whole than Craig and or Congressman Foley with all his salivating hankering for those young male pages or Mayor Adams of Portland,(even though I wish him the best of luck on retaining his job as Mayor, the young man was an adult and he was not harmed according to what he himself said and Mayor should have just owned up to it outright and simply said, &quot;I was with another adult male and what concern is it to you media people, etc? Whether or not Portland is well-managed as a city is all you should be judging me on.)

And Gay Man, I am sorry, but to call heterosexuals HATEROSEXUALS is way over the top and very excessive. If it weren&#039;t for 2 HATEROSEXUALS getting into bed together, you wouldn&#039;t be here today to write those things, all of us homosexuals owe our very existence, like it or not to each instance of sperm meeting egg, and to a sufficient number of men and women doing it together to allow us as many of us homosexuals to be born into this world as there are today.

All these gorgeous gay men and gorgeous gay women seen as I write this, are due to HATEROSEXUALS DOING THEIR OWN SEXUAL THING TOGETHER. There is no currently no other way (although technology may one day change for the masses the way things are done to give birth to a brand new straight or gay person)
that we have several million gay people in this country today.

We owe a debt of gratitude to HATEROSEXUALS like Brad Pitt who dropped bigger chunks of change ($100,000) into fighting Prop 8 than many of us currently have in our own bank accounts. He didn&#039;t have to do that, but he did so because he believes that &quot;everyone should have a chance at happiness&quot;.

I am gay and I don&#039;t have that kind of money to spend to fight for something major like Prop 8. I volunteered my time and at the most $500 is all I had to give to the fight against Prop 8. I admire Brad Pitt for getting in involved in helping to build shelters for Katrina victims and helping with all the causes he got into. Until I saw his charitable giving, his willingness to roll up his sleeves and get to work for those who have far less (Architectural Digest of January, 2009 has a story about his hands-on involvement to build some nice homes for Katrina victims) than he and to try to make a difference and his basic goodness as a man, I passed him off as just another air-headed self-absorbed movie celebrity more concerned with his hairstyles, clothes, travels, expensive tastes, etc. than with people. A magnificent straight dude and dad who puts both his deep pockets and his good heart to practical use for others less fortunate than he because he knows he can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian<br />
in just 33 days, the Supreme Court of California is taking up the challenges to Prop 8 and working on them, that is the latest word out of California as of the evening of Tuesday, February January 3rd.</p>
<p>In just barely a month&#8217;s time, OK? </p>
<p>I am not going through handwringing and self-flagellation unless the Supreme Court of California rules for Prop 8 which hopefully they won&#8217;t. Since after all, it ruled in favor of marriage equality in May of 2008, less than a year ago.</p>
<p>And Brian, if you looked around the comments for the last  months before and since Nov, 4, 2008 Prop H8 has been on our minds for a long time. It is still on our minds, it is on my mind every day. I keep looking for any news related to when the CA Supreme Court would take up the challenges to Prop 8 submitted to it a while ago. And again as of last night, the word is that CA Supreme Court has said it would handle Prop 8 challenges on March 5th of 2009. It might render a decision on that day or thereabouts but it is taking the matter up on that day, that is the day on its calendar to deal with Prop 8 for now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, Brian, but I plan to mark that day down and plan to stay tuned.</p>
<p>I have shoved wide-stance Larry Craig out of my mind, this resolution of the Prop 8 problem and the restoration of ASAP of California marriage equality is of far greater impact for the future of gay America and our land as a whole than Craig and or Congressman Foley with all his salivating hankering for those young male pages or Mayor Adams of Portland,(even though I wish him the best of luck on retaining his job as Mayor, the young man was an adult and he was not harmed according to what he himself said and Mayor should have just owned up to it outright and simply said, &#8220;I was with another adult male and what concern is it to you media people, etc? Whether or not Portland is well-managed as a city is all you should be judging me on.)</p>
<p>And Gay Man, I am sorry, but to call heterosexuals HATEROSEXUALS is way over the top and very excessive. If it weren&#8217;t for 2 HATEROSEXUALS getting into bed together, you wouldn&#8217;t be here today to write those things, all of us homosexuals owe our very existence, like it or not to each instance of sperm meeting egg, and to a sufficient number of men and women doing it together to allow us as many of us homosexuals to be born into this world as there are today.</p>
<p>All these gorgeous gay men and gorgeous gay women seen as I write this, are due to HATEROSEXUALS DOING THEIR OWN SEXUAL THING TOGETHER. There is no currently no other way (although technology may one day change for the masses the way things are done to give birth to a brand new straight or gay person)<br />
that we have several million gay people in this country today.</p>
<p>We owe a debt of gratitude to HATEROSEXUALS like Brad Pitt who dropped bigger chunks of change ($100,000) into fighting Prop 8 than many of us currently have in our own bank accounts. He didn&#8217;t have to do that, but he did so because he believes that &#8220;everyone should have a chance at happiness&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am gay and I don&#8217;t have that kind of money to spend to fight for something major like Prop 8. I volunteered my time and at the most $500 is all I had to give to the fight against Prop 8. I admire Brad Pitt for getting in involved in helping to build shelters for Katrina victims and helping with all the causes he got into. Until I saw his charitable giving, his willingness to roll up his sleeves and get to work for those who have far less (Architectural Digest of January, 2009 has a story about his hands-on involvement to build some nice homes for Katrina victims) than he and to try to make a difference and his basic goodness as a man, I passed him off as just another air-headed self-absorbed movie celebrity more concerned with his hairstyles, clothes, travels, expensive tastes, etc. than with people. A magnificent straight dude and dad who puts both his deep pockets and his good heart to practical use for others less fortunate than he because he knows he can.</p>
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		<title>By: Aiden Raccoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aiden Raccoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who says boycotting is not necessary is not on board.  Boycotts, especially now, when every business out there is hurting really stands out and when people have to beg you to patronize their business it has a real impact on where they put their money next time. Maybe they won&#039;t be for gay marriage but at least they will make the fundraising much harder and that is our job.  If you aren&#039;t looking closely at that list and stopping your dollars from going to these businesses then you really just don&#039;t care about your rights.  If there is a business you find on the list, Taco Bell, I hear is one, then you don&#039;t just pass them up on the street, you also need to write a handwritten letter to them stating why you won&#039;t go visit anymore.  I don&#039;t know if Taco Bell specifically is one or if it was just a regional donation because they are a part of YUM! which also includes Pizza hut, KFC, A&amp;W, and Long John Silvers.

However, even if gay marriage is back on the books, I would still just never visit those places again.  The damage is done.  Their statement has been made.  I&#039;ll never in my life so much as touch a bag of peanuts from the Knights of Columbus again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who says boycotting is not necessary is not on board.  Boycotts, especially now, when every business out there is hurting really stands out and when people have to beg you to patronize their business it has a real impact on where they put their money next time. Maybe they won&#8217;t be for gay marriage but at least they will make the fundraising much harder and that is our job.  If you aren&#8217;t looking closely at that list and stopping your dollars from going to these businesses then you really just don&#8217;t care about your rights.  If there is a business you find on the list, Taco Bell, I hear is one, then you don&#8217;t just pass them up on the street, you also need to write a handwritten letter to them stating why you won&#8217;t go visit anymore.  I don&#8217;t know if Taco Bell specifically is one or if it was just a regional donation because they are a part of YUM! which also includes Pizza hut, KFC, A&amp;W, and Long John Silvers.</p>
<p>However, even if gay marriage is back on the books, I would still just never visit those places again.  The damage is done.  Their statement has been made.  I&#8217;ll never in my life so much as touch a bag of peanuts from the Knights of Columbus again.</p>
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		<title>By: James Withers</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Withers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

What the devil are you talking about? No one here has suggested that the back of the bus is acceptable. Struggles for freedom, however, are long and difficult. 

Sincerely,

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>What the devil are you talking about? No one here has suggested that the back of the bus is acceptable. Struggles for freedom, however, are long and difficult. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>James</p>
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